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What do you think about what happened in Evergreen

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I don't really know how to precise the question, maybe I'm looking for a general opinion about what happened there.

Edit: I can't answer directly to you ingrate cause there is a problem with the creation of account on this web site.
Yes I mean the State College, specifically student who where controlling everyone going in and out of the college (don't know when it was though) telling the teacher what to do, and using fallacious (imo) argument to say that some of the teacher (Bret Weinstein) said/did racist things. If he did, I didn't comprehend it and would like to.
Also when the student used authority (which obviously I'm agains't even for the teacher to have) they had acquire, idk how I guess because it is really bad (I mean "bad" as in the commonly admitted moral) to say anything racist and I feel that they used that to censure and not listen to any answers coming from the ones they where accusing.
I guess I'm just turning around for nothing, I don't see where I'm going/what I'm asking so I'm just gonna stop it here. I was pretty intrigued by what happened and how it happened that's the main reason I was asking opinions about it, but I don't know what kind of answers I'm looking for in this really badly asked question.
Anyway, english is not my native language so if I'm not clear I'm sorry and would be ok to rephrase anything that need it.
asked Jul 12 by TreizeLife
edited Jul 14

Can you extrapolate? Based on where I live and my history, Evergreen means a particular thing (The Evergreen State College, in Olympia, Washington), but even if that is the place you're referencing, there have been a lot of events at Evergreen.

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i don't think anyone who uses this site attends evergreen, i haven't particularly followed that story, i am highly suspicious of what the media says (especially about topics like this), and i don't know what you've already learned.

the media is full of stories that make college students seem like rabid reactionaries. when i have heard students speak for similar viewpoints (that is, jarring responses to racism in schools), the students seem like they have a valid concern, but are relying on bad solutions (ie, reform has to leave certain institutions and expectations intact, and that is where reform stops making sense. the changes they're asking for won't actually bring the goal they say they want, as far as i can tell). on the other hand, since it's unclear what makes significant change, and if significant change happens it almost surely will not be in some linear way, with cause and effect that we can chart, maybe their attempts will help something good happen.
on yet another hand, identity politics--like other politics--has always involved people throwing their weight around (ie attempting to have a big impact in a perhaps arbitrary way), which is also part of figuring out how much someone can get away with (i'm sorry there is so much colloquialism in this comment--it's a reflection of how layered the topic is).

ps: despite my general skepticism, these articles provided some interesting context, including weinstein's decision to go on fox news: https://crosscut.com/2018/07/after-year-turmoil-can-evergreen-reinvent-itself
https://crosscut.com/2017/12/evergreen-state-college-racial-protests-professor-resigns-olympia
answered Jul 13 by dot (52,800 points)
edited Jul 13 by dot
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I followed the story a little bit, and nothing about it surprised me. Dot's point about being skeptical of the media is important, especially with regards to reactionary portrayals of college students or antifa. However, in my experience, left wing student activism usually runs on a logic that resembles 'there's not much to do, therefore we aren't doing anything, therefore we aren't doing enough, therefore we must do something', more than 'I have this problem, therefore I should address it'. I've found that to be a problem with left wing activism in general but it's especially accute in student activism because of the stage of life most students are at when they get involved, myself included.

When you feel like you must do something but there's nothing to do it's very easy to make mountains out of molehills or imagine problems into being for you to address, and convince yourself you're being righteous while you're at it.
answered Jul 14 by Yosemite (6,310 points)
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