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What exactly is the revolutionary strategy?

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Okay, so, I have a fairly lax 'pessimist' attitude towards gun control.  I don't know how I feel about the far-Right with guns, but, I honestly don't know how I feel about Anarchists with guns either.  I would almost trust Libertarians with guns more than Anarchists and I've known some pretty irresponsible Libertarians.  That aside, from what I can glean, the general consensus seems to be in favor of armament, but, against adventurist terrorism.  The consensus seems to be that some sort of insurrection will lead to revolution.  Do revolutionaries simply advocate arming themselves in anticipation of spontaneous revolution?  I would be less opposed to this than you might expect, but, ultimately against it as I think that armament provides for the justification of seizures aside from that I am just simply against violent revolution.  Also, if that the military decides not to fire upon civillians is really, as Endnotes argues, the "sine qua non" of any revolutionary project, why wage violent revolution at all?    

asked Jun 27 by anonymous

i like dot's answer below.

"the military decides not to fire upon civillians"
cops (the local, municipal military) fire on civilians every day. national militaries kills civilians en masse all the time. do you seriously think there is any possibility that in any kind of wide-scale social breakdown, the forces of the ultimate authorities would suddenly stop using the only means they have for control and domination?
i am no gun nut, and i seriously wish i lived in a world where such destructive implements (including, eg, cars) did not exist. but they do, and the state, through their military and police forces, will always have the biggest and the baddest. i know i stand no chance if the state turned its force on me directly. but as long as they have em, i will not be giving mine up. that probably sounds right-wingish, and i couldn't care less.
however, i find it much more plausible that social breakdown will happen as a result of catastrophic "natural" events, caused by modern technological human society, well before any kind of "social revolution" that might cause fundamental change. (no revolution in history has resulted in truly fundamental change, by my measure). when that breakdown occurs - which i wish would happen within my lifetime, but i doubt i will be that lucky - those that survive will be forced to do so on their own (along with those in proximity, hopefully with some pre-determined affinity), without the help/hindrance of government or any other institution.
since my little tribe is able to grow our own food and filter the poison water, no doubt others - marauders, straggling survivers, remaining government actors, etc - will come looking for what we have. while we will be open to helping someone in need if we have the abundance to share, i suspect that much more often it will be the authoritarian types trying to take, take, take, to gain/regain power. we will be prepared to defend our lives, and we have guns for that purpose. yes, i would expect to die defending myself from larger, better armed, or just smarter adversaries. i'm ok with that.
i guess that is my revolutionary strategy. :-)

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there isn't "the revolutionary strategy" for anarchists. there are multiple ones, and mostly those anarchists who call for revolution don't call for arms, as far as i know.

generally anarchists want the people to rise up, which will not require weapons, but the people who are currently armed to not use the weapons against each other. eg the armed forces and cops would ideally reject firing on their friends and families...

i would certainly call this magical thinking, but most revolutionary talk is pretty irrational, and ration is also over-valued.

other anarchists imply that shooting of the cops and armed forces might be necessary, although how they think that will work--given the wildly asymmetrical nature of experience and material and attitude--makes no sense either.

and i think other people think that anarchists will organize our way to a better world, through meetings and good work practices...? eh. i've never really understood the ramifications of anarcho-syndicalism, but it exists.

and some anarchists don't talk about revolution anymore, because all the options seem entirely unlikely and frequently undesirable.
answered Jun 27 by dot (52,720 points)